In this thread you can talk about extremely light switches 
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As a stock Cherry Black user, I feel targeted.
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Locking MX Switches would be dope light switches, just saying
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Ok, now I want to do that. 
As for switches with very low spring force⌠well they make me feel very clumsy so I tend to avoid them 
For me, theyâve got both preference and nerve damage working against them - I type the best on switches with moderate spring force (mid-60s) and some kind of sharp feedback, whether itâs click, clack, or bump.
If itâs gotta be a light-spring switch, some kind of sharp click feedback I can feel goes a long way; 55g is too light for my comfort in a linear and for most tactiles, but in a switch like the Box White itâs perfect for me - though this might be kind of cheating, because thereâs a second spring in the form of the torsion click-bar adding a bit to the peak force. Same for sharp tactiles - the spring might be light, but the peak force less so.
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Now I want the light switch for my hangout room to be a MX Lock! 
I wonder if the contacts of a MX switch could survive being hooked up to 110v long term???
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Most residential switches are rated for 15A-20A, so in theory, as long as the copper contacts are bigger than 14AWG (12 AWG Preferably), then it should be good 
My guess is that the copper contacts on a MX Lock Switch are probably too small to continuously being hooked up to residential lights.
Per the datasheet of another Cherry MX switch, itâs only rated for 12V at 10mA.
My guess is arcing would erode the contacts and or arc and burn/melt the plastic, which is a potential fire hazard 
Datasheet: https://www.mouser.com/datasheet/2/71/EN_CHERRY_MX_BLUE-1608304.pdf
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Yeah thatâs what I was thinking too, big fire hazard, plus the electricity probably would just arc between the contacts irregardless of them touching or not since they are so close. Would be so cool if possible though!
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I bet it would still be possible to make a wall switch panel that is at least controlled by an MX lock switch, with the actual current running through another unseen, possibly motor-operated switch thatâs properly rated.
Now Iâm wondering if the Big Switchesâ contacts are thick enoughâŚ
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That was my exact thought after Huey wrote, âplease stop before you burn down your houses and this forum is mentioned in the fire report, you dummies.â (I may be paraphrasing him a bit.)
@Manofinterests, would the NK big clicky switch handle household current? I have a crew of âelectriciansâ at my house now.
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For whatever reason, Kailhua does have spec sheets for the big switches and at least per their spec sheets, unfortunately not. The big switches are rated for 12V 10mA as well. I would think it could handle more than a standard MX switch. I assume they just copy pastaâd that electrical data since they donât forsee anyone using this switch for anything but a keyboard. Regardless, Iâd still assume that the contacts are not large enough to maintain a light switch for a continuous amount of time.
Spec Sheet: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/3099/8088/files/CPG151101D229_Pale_Blue_stem.pdf?v=1613523904
Interestingly enough, per their spec sheet, it can handle 500V DC for at least a minute per their testing. My guess is that the switch just wasnât tested for anything greater in terms of amperage and they only tested it with similar specs to an MX switch (Remember, it needs to be rated for both volts and amperage).
If I had a modular power supply, I could probably test a big switch to see if it could handle it for a prolonged amount of time, but unfortunately thatâs not a tool in my wheelhouse just yet haha
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On a more serious note, I have been really enjoying light linears lately. Got a few builds now using Cherry Nixies spring swapped to 45g or 50g Geon 18mm springs. That would be my go to switch right now. Other ones I ve been enjoying is HMX Clouds with 45g Geon 18mm springs, KTT Vanilla Ice Creams with their stock 48g springs (I think they are 15 or 16mm long), & surprisingly Gateron Smoothies with their stock 40g 22mm double stage springs + Gateron Deepings (full travel ver.) with their stock 58g 18mm springs. Theyâre both actually pretty consistent IME even though Gateron gives +/- 10g on their specs for them.
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Did Cherryâs new way of lubing shock you at all? I think itâs their MX2A lube process, but it looked like a big gob of lube at the base of the spring and surprised me at first.
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I think the lightest I can stand is 55g. Anything lighter than that is just frustrating to type on. But I do find that simply adding a heavier spacebar switch does improve the overall feel and typing accuracy for me with very light switches. I have a few boards that Iâve soldered with light switches that I have, over time, replaced the space bar with a nice 60g switch.
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I run linears in most everything, some clickys in around-the-house boards but no tactiles. Anything less than 60g spring frustrates me. My modded Cherry nixies with silent stems are a go to for anything I type on more than an hour per day (only two boards).
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No, but only because I knew about the lube before I got any. Itâs supposed to eventually migrate throughout the switch with use, but i havenât used any stock to see if that is true or not. I know I personally would prefer a dry version of the MX2a switches since I am for sure gonna hand lube any Cherry switch. So for me that now adds a extra step of removing the glob. I have wondered if the lube they use now is the same as or close enough to krytox to be just brushed around?
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Cherry linears spring swapped to 45g is where its at. Heavy linears fatigue my fingers too quickly, but I get accidental actuations with anything lighter than 45g on linears.
I realized I really like crisp tactiles wtih light springs like Gat Beers that have the nice and pronounced bump to prevent typos. Makes me want to try spring swapping something less than 45g in like Baby Kangaroos or the WS Browns I got.
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I have the same problem with heavy switches. I tested a bunch of springs on boba U4Ts and found that 53g worked for me.
Thanks again to this forum (@d3L7r0n ), otherwise I would not have thought to do that.
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You are 
Please donât sue me, but 55 grams is NOT light 
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