Easing Into Linears

Totally. That’s my only gripe with long-poles. But I do appreciate their acoustics and quasi tactility.

I do have better luck with long-poles in box switches due to the extra sidewall grip on the keycap stems. Those Meow Claws felt really solid and snappy.

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Not sure about the Meow Claws, but at least with Inks the shorter travel Box stems have lower feet they bottom-out on instead of the pole - that’s why they don’t have that teeter-y feeling at bottom-out like most long-pole switches do.

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That explains it. Makes total sense now.

Ink “box” stem is OP :ok_hand::yum:
Not only do the bottom out feels stable but the sound feels more crisp.

This makes me want order some of the new INK BOX switches right here. I really dislike long pole stems in any switch, but particularly on linears. Seeing these now bottom out on the sides gives me some hope these new Box Inks will be worth their cost this time around.

In the mean time I just ordered 240 Gateron Pro Milky yellows & have the loot stashed to order at least 240 Gateron X switches (probably more cause I think these will be a super hyped switch at first). Glad to see Gateron making a strong come back now though, as I have always had great experiences using & building with thier switches TBH. :crocodile:

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After reading the early part of this thread, I am thinking to get some Tealios. Is Tealios still considered as good switches, or are they irrelevant now? I feel that zeal switches are probably overpriced, although I did enjoy zealios/zilent back in the days.

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Tealios remains one of my favorite switches bc the feel of Tealios lubed with 205g0 is uniquely creamy among switches I tried.

My current favorites are:

  1. Cherry Black
  2. Cream
  3. Tealios

Of the three, Tealios feels the creamiest when lubed with 205g0.

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Are u sure about the ““regular”” one in the middle?
I always thought it was the keycaps or the "“roof” of the pole that said stop. :thinking:
I base this on that the legs would bend if that was the bottom out point.

The legs that touch the leaf have a little recess in the housing so they don’t actually bottom-out on anything - it’s the flat surface behind them that does.

Some housings have it looking like a shelf, others just have a little divot for the legs, but every “normal stem” stock switch I’ve seen avoids bottoming-out the legs one way or another.

Not super easy to see and this housing has some other unusual features, but the circled areas are the recesses for the legs.

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Well didn’t get as many Gat Xs as I wanted to, but an unexpected bill popped up. Still managed to grab 140 though. They are live on CannonKeys if anyone is interested.

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Built another setup for my Meridian last night with JWK Snow Whites. Really surprised at how nice they feel & sound even compared to other popular JWK/Durock switches. I was a little dubious of the polyamide bottom housing making much of a difference, but it definitely does. The smoothness is pretty insane, I used 55g progressive springs in these (lubed with 105), lubed the housings with 205g00, & even on the ones I rejected cause of a little too much lube there really wasn’t any sluggishness. It just made the switch sound much more muted.

Although I did come across a few duds in my batch of 110. A couple had deformed stem wells in their bottom housing, then a few had deformed stems. Not something that is exactly unheard of, but 5 bunk switches in a batch of 110 is pretty bad QC TBH
Here’s a pic of one of the deformed bottom housings & one of the deformed stems.



Anyone else ever see anything similar with JWK/Durock siwtches?

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Right!?! It’s so weird. That material feels way softer than most. It’d be nice to see that in a stem one day.

I had a few of those misshapen ones, two or three out of 110 for sure.

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Yeah softer is a better way of describing it than I did! It would be nice to see a stem made of polyamide if possible. I wonder if the lesser QC is because of the Snow Whites most likely being a smaller order from a smaller vendor? Like JWK/Durock just churned them out as fast as they could to get to more lucrative jobs. Cause I’ve tuned literally thousands of JWK/Durock switches & while coming across a dud every once in a while isn’t unheard of, this is the first batch I’ve had that had more than one dud in it. Oh well, even taking the duds into consideration I’d still recommend these switches (or H1s) with the caveat of buying at least 10 or 20 extra than you plan on needing.

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I am looking at two switches, JWK Seal switches, and Tecsee Diamond (Jadeite) switches. I have spare springs so that doesn’t matter. I have heard the Seal switches use the same mould as Alpacas which are supposed to be good, and the Tecsee Diamond switches have UHMPWE stems and housings which is supposed to make them really smooth. I have heard UHMPWE can have some consistancy issues so some people have said they are amazingly smooth, and others say they aren’t super smooth. What ones would you choose?

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Seals are the better bet for getting a batch of smooth consistent switches since they are just a V2 Alpaca recolor TBH. The Diamonds probably are nice, but UHMWPE does have more manufacturing issues than the commonly used plastics so I’m sure there will be more duds in a batch than most other switches will have. If you don’t mind buying a decent bit more than you need to cherry pick the batch Diamonds could be a decent choice.

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I have both. Seal norms are not any problems. The spring can be changed. But diamond is for me personally the worst switch in history.
It is necessary to buy not for +20, but twice as much. If you need 60 then buy 120 and so on. If the stem is bent, the switch will become tactile, it also has a lot of scratches. The top requires a film, but if you make a film, then the top does not hold well. It is also difficult to insert, since you cannot press hard otherwise the top is ejected.

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Agreed with @Rob27shred and @Neprawda - the JWK’s are a more reliable choice.

UHMWPE switches can be great - but it’s basically a gamble every time. Same goes for polycarb stems. I have a batch of Diamonds that came out great and I love them - but I have a batch of Lychees from the same manufacturer (also has UHMWPE stem) that won’t hold onto any caps - they fall right off!

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All my uhwempe stems do not hold keycaps well. and the same durock pom where the mystic stem also holds badly. Only keycaps from abs. Keycaps from PBT are normal everywhere.
Lychees are both linear and tactile. I probably generally have all the switches from uhwempe. there is no only mint switch.

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Another Diamond Linear owner chiming in - it definitely seems like your mileage may vary with them. The batch that I got was great and I actually really enjoy typing on them. The UHMWPE is somewhat unique and makes them interesting (to me) but I can also certainly see how the variability can be off-putting.

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Not a fan of Tecsee diamond switches. They have very inconsistent leaf ping. About 10 out of 70 switches I bought had noticeably higher leaf ping.

My favorite UHMWPE switches are JWK Quartz and 415Keys UHMWPE Stem in Tealios Housing.

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