Easing Into Linears

Words of wisdom bud, words of wisdom.

This helps a ton. I think your approach is so right on and something I can abide by.

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I am pretty happy with stock TTC Wild but wondering how to lube those wall stems in case I am going to open them one day. Would you lube the whole wall or just the part inside the housing?

I only lube a pencil stroke above the “rail”

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I haven’t lubed my Wilds yet, but I have lubed Bluish Whites which should be identical. I just applied lube no higher than the top of the stem “arms”, but otherwise I treated like any other stem. If you get some lube on the portion of the stem above the housing, you can wipe it off when the switch is assembled (or really, just leave it, lol).

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Super impressed with these Momoka Frogs! Been using them stock in this build for about 30 some hours & they just keep growing on me. I was hesitant about these at first due to the weird pre travel / full travel distance they have (2.5mm / 3.7mm). In use though those numbers do not make them feel any different to me from the standard pre travel/ full travel distance switches surprisingly. Also they have a very premium feel, looks like they honestly do use the higher quality materials they talk about in their advertising for these switches.

Being really nitpicky I would say the top out sound is a little thin on them (easily fixed by lubing & possibly filming) & the stem wobble is a little bit more than I expected with a bix style stem (it’s still well within the acceptable range though, I would even say it’s good TBH). Although that is the only two complaints I can come up with on these. They are shocking smooth out of the box, the factory lube job is very light & very consistent, the springs are some of the best stock springs I’ve ever seen (quiet & consistent), the housings have a nice tight fit between the top & bottom, Not much to complain about really! Well worth a try for linear lovers IMO. :+1:

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I also like the feel of frogs. If they have standard travel distance and are 5 pins, they might be my top 3 favor linear. Their housings are so tight that I couldn’t film them.

Frog’s springs are at my sweet spot as well. After using dual-stage springs for a while, I eventually gravitated toward 62g 14mm springs. Long springs are light and snappy, which are great for fast typing. But for normal daily work - which isn’t typing all the time, I want a bit more progressive feel.

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Does anyone know of a comparable spring to the Gateron Cap V2 Yellows 20mm spring? I really like the feel of them and want something similar in my Black Inks.

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Something like these should feel similar.

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I would say a slow/long spring would give the gat Yellow feeling.

That said, 2-stage is the best spring IMO.

FYI: FR4 universal 60% plate from HypeKeyboards.ca sounds surprisingly good.

Cherry black usually sounds the best with other plates but Cream sounded the best with this plate. No idea why that is.

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Can you post some sound tests for comparison? I am not huge on smoothness so I have been low key interested in cream. And I have been using cherry black on FR4 plate for a while now.

Here you go. Cherry black first, followed by Cream. That’s not how Cream sounds on my other boards but, on this FR4 plate, its sound got deeper and its usual sharp clack sounds more pleasant.

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Thanks @donpark I will have to try them myself. Ordered some on its way now.

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Am I the only person to find linears more comfortable, but for whatever inexplicable reason my typing is way more accurate on Tactile switches even though they tire me out?

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I also found tactile tires me out, although I go back to topre once in a while. My accuracy always drops initially when switching from tactile to linear. But once my hands get used to it, accuracy tends to recover. I also found it easier to switch to linear with very long springs. It is easier to actuate with those flat force curves.

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Same. The moment I upped the spring weight (~65g), my accuracy improved a noticeable amount. Those top heavy slow curves really help if you want to keep the overall keypress on the lighter side.

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Yup. Top-heavy spring helps w/accuracy.

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Anyone here try Cobalt POM linears? They’re my favorite middle-ground between linear and tactile. I believe it has a a slow spring. Was my first time trying a slow spring! I was amazed by the slight tactile feedback they have. It’s subtle but noticeable.

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Those are amazing!

They have some of the best stem and top-housing tolerances I’ve ever tried. You know what’s weird, I was battling a teeter-totter issue on a board with these and thought it was due to the long-poles.

So I totally clipped the pole in half and retested. Same issue.

I think the pronounced bottom-out comes from a short-travel stem slider versus the pole hitting the bottom-housing. I think.

They definitely have this marblely, deepish clack, with zero keycap clatter on the upstroke. Like, if you press down on the keycap and wiggle your finger, there’s no crunchy noise or rattle.

I did have some issues with the switch legs as they were a bit tight on a few hotswaps I was using. Since I went with a full plate, I just clipped the legs and the rest was easy breezy.

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That’s my issue with cobalts. I wanted to use them with SA caps, but whoa nelly, there’s a lot of wobble going on.

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