I think I’m super digging beige and gray keycaps on my grail instead of charcoal.
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I like your grail a lot, but I also really like your coffee cup.
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Hi, newbie here. No shit dude, the moment I wanted to order tangerines after finally taking the decision to, the EU shops I get some stuff didn’t had them in stock a few months ago. So a wuick search for “the next smoothest switch” led me to Epsilons. I used them for about a day stock but it was a blast. Idk but does someone would recommend spring swap? I’m really into heavier springs.
Cheers
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I see Tangies kinda like The Beatles - they may not technically be the best ever, but they were the first to blow peoples’ minds the way they did.
As for springs - do you think you’d prefer something more bouncy feeling (more weight at the bottom) or more consistent pressure through the travel? Generally, longer springs will give you less increase of weight between the start and end of travel, with the opposite being true of short springs.
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Woah that is pretty cool! What fighting game you planning on using it with?
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Tbh, this just started as a cool project I saw online and just felt like making: GitHub - jfedor2/flatbox: Low profile hitbox-layout fightstick
I haven’t really played fighting games in a few years lol, so once this is done (just need to print the keycaps), I’ll probably try out guilty gear strive, or get back into street fighter, or granblue fantasy. Lots of options these days it looks like 
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Heard really good things about Granblue. I am tempted to get that Darkstalkers collection coming out soon. Not sure if it is a Switch exclusive or not.
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I was planning on enjoying the Epsilons for at least the rest of the week, but I couldn’t wait to try the Silent Bluish Whites.
They’re pretty much exactly what I expected, which is to say excellent. They’ve got a pretty strong and snappy but also very smooth tactile bump. They sound and feel just like a Bluish White - except the top-out is dampened as well. This makes them pretty darn quiet, especially for a tactile with a bump on the strong side. The sound is a gentle silicone thud with just a hint of leaf-and-stem interaction sound if you listen for it. Stock performance is very impressive.
Here’s a recording complete with realistic hard-wall room and desk echo:
I also tried a new (to me) lubing-maintenance technique after finding my test keeb’s stabs too rattly for switches this quiet - and hey! It’s working out really well so far - quick and easy, but more importantly, they sound nice. Mmm. feelsgoodman
I think I’d originally lubed these with a relatively thin coat of 205g0, so I used a pipette syringe to place some more where I wanted it. This was with switches in and caps off, stabs still in the board, washers still sitting on the stems. I just placed the board on its front and then back side, squirting a dab above the wire on the side where it comes out, and pretty much all around it on the other.
I almost feel silly because this is simultaneously the easiest and most effective method I’ve used - what? no, Windows, I do not want to turn on Sticky Keys, thank you - but of course time will tell how long they continue to remain more quiet than silent switches.
If they start to tick after a couple days like my light application of BDZ did, I’ll let you know - otherwise I think this is how I’m gonna do it from now on… I think I’ll have to try it on a set of dry stabs next, and possibly with other lubes. I know dielectric grease will flow through the pipette, but IDK abt BDZ.
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That’s been my lubing method for about a year now. I’ve never had such consistently good results as with 205g0 in a syringe. It’s more forgiving with over-lubing too, which is nice because that’s a habit of mine.
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In my head, thinking about the two options, I’d firstly would try the latter option on linears. I’ll have to try of course. Just want to verify if I understood it correctly: a shorter spring with a higher force means a consistant increase in pressure throughout the whole travel distance and a longer spring means an increase of required force towards the bottom. Correct?
Those switches sound pretty interesting!
I could not find them in 5 pin format. Are yours 3 pin or 5?
Edit: nm just saw your photos on a different post. I hope these will come in 5 pin in the future I have seen some vendors with the regular bluish whites are 5 pin.
I believe it’s the other way around. Longer or linear springs “distribute their weight” towards the top which makes it feel heavier on top, but more consistent throughout the press. Springs that feel much lighter on top compared to the bottom (granted all spring ultimately will feel heavier the more they are compressed) are called progressive springs – they typically have more coils on the bottom third of the spring than on the rest. A two stage spring looks like two small springs fused in the middle, and provides a unique experience. To me it feels like a swell in the middle of the press where the change in force is felt the most, and they tend to have a higher perceived acceleration on the upstroke (aka snappy return).
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Thank you, very interesting as always.
Since I still got the Kangaroos coming, I’m wondering how they compare?
@fatalruin is correct; it’s the other way around.
The short springs start out light but quickly get heavy, whereas long springs have a more similar weight throughout.
Basically, the longer springs experience a smaller change in functional compression vs their length.
@Andreas Compared with the 'roos, I believe the travel is a little shorter on the Bluish Whites, though I’d have to double check. The BW’s bump is similarly up-top, but a little more rounded - and of course the 'roos aren’t dampened.
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@Deadeye Thanks, the damped aspect is very intriguing.
BTW, any new videos in the pipeline?
They’re quickly becoming some of my favorite silent tactiles. If you’re curious about a non-dampened version, the Matrix Tactile is an example. It’s also possible to remove the bottom dampener from the housing of a regular Bluish White - which only has it on the bottom, whereas these new ones have them up top on the stem as well.
Yes - I had to take a hiatus while looking for and moving into a new house along with some minor health concerns, but I think I’m just about ready to dive back in. I have quite a lot I’d like to work on!
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All the best around the house and upcoming projects. I hope you are back in top of your health game.
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@fatalruin and @Deadeye thank you. I’ll give it some thought and maybe order some different types for comparison after taking a deeper look into the spring topic. I alwys dismissed spring swapping as I thought I’d never be this sensible. But as every new discovery for me wettens my appetite I’ll just have to try it.
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I don’t know your tastes, especially spring weight, but here are some of my favorites for linears right now if it’s helpful.
TX 14mm (short) 67g
TX 16mm (long) 65g
Tecsee two-stage 63.5g (waiting on restock)
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